A major Anthropic investor shrugs off losses

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We’ve been covering project chief for a lengthy time, but we’ve never seen a gait of dealmaking akin this, alongside specified eye-popping valuations. Each week, we’ll create awareness of the biggest stories in VC and get beyond the chatter to disclose what Silicon Valley’s sharpest minds are really thinking, not fair what they’re posting on X or LinkedIn. -Ben and Katie

This week is SF Tech Week current in San Francisco, aka Andreessen Horowitz promotion week. The liberated flood and drinks are flowing, and for several reason, there are two blimps floating complete the Bay. 

It turns out that AI hasn’t replaced individual networking…yet. Topics du jour include: Is SaaS making a comeback? Why is there so much perform between Factory AI and Cognition? How do I enter Claude Founder House?

With several 2,000 events, there is continually a improved one you’re hearing concerning about the corner. The FOMO is real. 

We’re biased, but we think the finest event was our Tech Insider: Growth Mode town hall, anywhere one of Anthropic’s biggest investors weighed in on the upcoming IPO. 

Somehow, I ended up alongside two sisters of celebrated tech founders.

My tweet this week concerning “Zuck’s sister” DJing in a rooftop penthouse at the FARR Summit went viral, alongside many group adding she does have a name of her own and is a prosperous VC in her own right. Sorry, Arielle Zuckerberg! (Arielle afterward chimed in to add she has been DJing since 2018 at Burning Man and small festivals.)

Tuesday, I interviewed Ginger Luckey Gaetz, the sister of Anduril originator Palmer Luckey, who is an adviser to the authorities of El Salvador. Interestingly, whenever I asked what business she desired she had invested in, she stated it was Anduril. She stated she was prohibited from investing since her husband, Matt Gaetz, was a US congressman. 

If startup investing isn’t a wager adequate for you, I’m co-hosting a poker tournament alongside $10,000 at interest tonight at the Foundry. I volition donate any winnings to charity, so desire me luck! -Ben

Major Anthropic capitalist says he’s not concerned concerning losses or competition

Last night, Ben sat downward alongside Menlo Ventures partner Matt Murphy, an first capitalist in Anthropic. If the listing goes well, Menlo volition be among the biggest winners, turning an estimated $1 milliard funding into about $25 milliard at a $2 trillion valuation. The resolute has invested in all circular since 2023.

Not surprisingly, Murphy remains extremely bullish. He shrugged off leaked financials obtained by Reuters showing Anthropic racked up an eye-watering $8 milliard in functioning losses final year, saying investors should delay for the company’s S-1 before judging the business. “If I could buy more, I would,” Murphy said.

He additionally pushed rear on the idea that Chinese open-weight models are poised to commoditize the biggest AI labs. His disagreement is that the market has moved beyond experimentation and into optimization, alongside companies increasingly focused on cutting costs, post-training models, and routing activity to the correct system. Menlo is betting heavily on that infrastructure tier — compute, inference, routing, and optimization — which Murphy stated has accounted for approximately 60% to 70% of the firm’s AI investments.

As for finding the next Anthropic, Murphy was blunt: “I don’t think there’s going to be another Anthropic.”

That doesn’t average he sees no froth. Murphy called neo-labs and robotics “super interesting,” but warned that several startups are raising $100 myriad or equal billion-dollar rounds before showing much genuine traction. 

And in a lightning round, he took a rub at Anthropic’s biggest rival. Asked which business was most overhyped correct now, Murphy didn’t hesitate: “Definitely OpenAI,” he stated alongside a grin.

The Tech Insider spectators of investors and founders was small bullish on Anthropic. When Ben asked how many group would allocate in Anthropic at a $3 trillion valuation, the reply was tepid, alongside most in the spectators saying they would not buy Anthropic inventory at that price. 

The caput of Washington University’s endowment, in comments final month, aligned additional alongside the audience. At a gathering of chief funding officers in Fort Worth, Texas, he warned that the AI labs are in major trouble since of competition from Chinese models.

"When we looked at the first OpenAI agreement that several of our peers participated in and made lots of prosperity on paper, we were extremely skeptical," Wilson said. "I've gotten additional skeptical complete time."

Yet first OpenAI capitalist Vinod Khosla told Ben he powerfully disagrees alongside Wilson, saying OpenAI and Anthropic have a huge disbursal advantage in chips and data centers. 

I have established that most investors remain extremely bullish on American AI, particularly the largest players akin Anthropic and OpenAI, but many privately sound skepticism concerning ballooning valuations in the broader ecosystem. -Katie 

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The Buzz

I was at Munich’s Bits & Pretzels final week, anywhere equal the robots were dressed for Oktoberfest. 

I chatted alongside Legora CEO Max Junestrand, who made the case for construction lawful AI in Stockholm. He stated that European workforce appear additional apt to rod around, partially because of small competition but additionally since San Francisco has a "very mercenary culture." 

People there, he added, "go and do one twelvemonth in many of AI companies. And I think we have been capable to build a civilization of missionaries fairly than mercenaries.” 

Still, Legora’s dual HQ is now in New York, nearer to its American customers. That contrasts alongside Hugging Face and Listen Labs, the two of which were started in the US notwithstanding their founders’ European roots. 

One capitalist lamented that neither endeavor had been built locally. He desired they’d sold to European companies alternatively of Nvidia and Salesforce, imagining a self-sustaining ecosystem autonomous of America. 

But my awareness is that few in Germany’s tech ecosystem portion his dream. The most anticipated event at the conference? San Francisco Tech Week. -Katie

Around the Cap Table

• Katie teamed up alongside our sister publication, Politico, for a scoop on $100 myriad in compute power gifted to the White House for its Genesis Mission program for AI researchers. An additional $100 myriad is for community field employees. Venture capitalist Anjney Midha’s new endeavor, National Compute, is rearward the gift.
• This is not your average SPV. Get Access came out of beta final week, an invite-only program for individual investors to gain access to choose later-stage rounds. Madonna’s director and Sound Ventures cofounder Guy Oseary led an funding into the startup. 
• Why Noa Argamani, a October 7 survivor, is choosing project capital following 246 days in Hamas captivity. 
• Ben talked to VCs putting their prosperity into concerts as a hedge against AI. "Real existence experiences are the supreme hedge against AI," stated Paul Martino, managing partner at Bullpen Capital. “The location you're going to escape from AI is a concert.”
• Henry Chandonnet wrote concerning doggy perform at Corgi, the $5 milliard AI coverage business known for its San Francisco cafés and “Corgi girls.”
• In August, Bill Gates went community alongside his blunt warnings concerning AI. Hearing Gates talk concerning it on Ezra Klein’s podcast final week was much additional alarming. In a testy conversation, Gates says AI “makes nuclear weapons appearance akin nothing.”

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