The long-shot plan to save TikTok from a US ban

So far, ByteDance has shown zero willingness to rotation disconnected TikTok successful the US. The Chinese genitor institution seems to beryllium banking connected the Supreme Court aliases President-elect Donald Trump rescuing the app before it’s banned adjacent month.

The evident names that would would bargain TikTok if they could — Amazon, Google, Meta, Microsoft, Oracle, etc. — are sitting connected the sidelines and waiting to spot what happens successful the coming weeks. The timepiece is ticking. Congress just sent letters to Sundar Pichai and Tim Cook reminding them that they will beryllium legally liable for continuing to big TikTok successful their app stores aft January 19th. 

Then there’s Frank McCourt, the existent property billionaire and erstwhile proprietor of the Los Angeles Dodgers. For months, McCourt has been very nationalist astir his desire to bargain TikTok. He has ramped up his drumbeat since ByteDance precocious mislaid its ineligible conflict connected appeal. This week, he sounded much investors connected his Project Liberty scheme to bargain the app’s US operations. 

When I said pinch McCourt complete Zoom successful betwixt those investor meetings, he told maine he presently has astir $20 cardinal down him for a bid. He has asked Kevin Mayer, who was concisely TikTok’s CEO the last clip it was almost banned from the US, to beryllium involved, though Mayer hasn’t signed on. McCourt told maine his squad has talked to “most” of ByteDance’s biggest American investors and that they’re “very interested” successful his plan. (Spokespeople for these firms either declined to remark aliases didn’t respond to my pings, and Mayer didn’t person a comment.)

There are respective reasons McCourt’s effort to bargain TikTok is simply a long-shot, the biggest being that, moreover if ByteDance wanted to sell, the Chinese authorities whitethorn not fto it. Then location are the method specifications of his proposal, which would spot TikTok put connected a decentralized protocol that is funded by McCourt and untested pinch a level of TikTok’s size. For me, the biggest reddish emblem of each is that there’s a cryptocurrency called Frequency tied to the project.

McCourt has high-minded ambitions for really the net should activity that are successful statement pinch the emergence of federated platforms for illustration ActivityPub and Bluesky. He imagines TikTok offering a marketplace of user-created algorithms, overmuch for illustration Bluesky does today, and users having the expertise to ain their profiles. Keep reference for much from our speech this week…

The pursuing Q&A has been edited for magnitude and clarity.

My knowing is location are aggregate pieces of Project Liberty. You’ve sewage the Decentralized Social Networking Protocol (DSNP) and past the TikTok bid, and they’re connected. It each seems a small spot afield from what you person historically done.

Having seen the harms of societal media and wherever the net was going arsenic it became highly centralized, I dedicated immoderate resources to commencement a nationalist argumentation schoolhouse astatine my alma mater, Georgetown. I was possibly naive successful retrospect, but I thought that we could get the policymaking servants of the state retired successful beforehand of the problem and steer things successful a amended guidance retired of that school. 

Then I realized that the nationalist argumentation making servants of the state is nary lucifer for Big Tech, truthful I began to spell backmost to my roots. My family has been building infrastructure for 131 years, truthful this really isn’t very acold afield from our halfway competency erstwhile you deliberation astir this not arsenic package astatine the app layer, but arsenic infrastructure astatine the guidelines layer. I talked to a fewer superb machine scientists that we person successful the institution and put the task to them of solving this from an engineering position if you had nary limitations. The reply came backmost that you would spell up and create different protocol that would link us, conscionable for illustration TCP/IP connects devices and HTTP connects data.

Our extremity present is bigger than buying TikTok. It’s reimagining really the net works. Purchasing TikTok and moving 170 cardinal group to a reimagined, upgraded net would catalyze that replacement and compress time.

Is this a financial endeavor aliases is this philanthropy for you? Do you spot a return connected finance here? 

I spot it arsenic some and we’ve been very observant to abstracted the two. Project Liberty has an institute, a 501(c)(3), that’s purely not-for-profit. DSNP has been talented to the world. That is being supported by the institute. 

The layer-one blockchain, Frequency, is tokenized. The organization will ain the mostly of the tokens but that will beryllium a commercialized endeavor. TikTok, erstwhile we bargain it, will beryllium a commercialized endeavor.

If you were fixed the opportunity to bargain it but a information was that you couldn’t do it connected this protocol you built, would you still do it? 

Probably not because I don’t cognize really you would execute the objectives we want to achieve, which is to beryllium capable to tally the level without the algorithm and springiness group ownership and power of their relationships. You request an implementation instrumentality to usage DSNP. 

I would beryllium wholly open, however, if personification other built an replacement to Frequency. We’re looking to decentralize, not further centralize. 

Have you studied the fediverse: Mastodon, ActivityPub, and past besides what Bluesky is doing?

I respect each the group who are doing that because they are trying to amended the net and respect individuals. A federated attack is very different than having a cosmopolitan societal chart that’s globally accessible. 

We’re saying that thing has to alteration fundamentally pinch the internet. What Jay Graber is doing pinch Bluesky is awesome but you still person a Bluesky identity. You’re still connected Bluesky and your relationships are connected Bluesky. Let’s stipulate that it’s amended but you’re still there, right? At immoderate constituent possibly Jay is not there.

Give maine an update connected the position of your investor transportation and really overmuch money you person committed. 

People are ace excited astir this and superior will not beryllium an rumor astatine all. The rumor is going to beryllium what ByteDance does. We’ve been saying for complete six months that we felt the authorities was going to triumph the case.

I don’t deliberation ByteDance’s entreaty is going to beryllium successful. This is going to beryllium a shut-it-down aliases waste it scenario. Like President-elect Trump, I’d for illustration to spot it not banned. We’re not asking China for the algorithm. We’re not an antitrust threat. We’ll walk CFIUS vetting. We don’t request aliases want the algorithm. We person a cleanable stack wherever the personification guidelines tin migrate.

We don’t cognize what ByteDance is going to decide. We surely dream they determine to waste and sphere immoderate worth for their shareholders. We’ll do it connected position that we deliberation tin beryllium a win-win. China keeps the algorithm. US citizens are protected. The app stays alive.

Is $20 cardinal the magnitude that you still person committed?

That’s what we’ve sewage circled correct now and that’s an bid of magnitude what we deliberation this is worth. Now, I opportunity that pinch a immense caveat: we don’t cognize what ByteDance is selling. We deliberation we person a very bully thought of what the existent numbers are, but it’s not for illustration there’s a information room that ByteDance has group up and we’re wrong of it. I deliberation we person a bully consciousness of what this would beryllium worthy if ByteDance keeps the algorithm and sells the personification guidelines and the contented and the brand.

There are 3 categories of investors. One group is the existing American companies that person invested successful ByteDance. We’ve talked to astir of them. They’re very interested, assuming ByteDance agrees to sell. They would either put much superior successful aliases support their superior in. 

A 2nd class are group that are acquainted pinch the plus because they’ve looked astatine it successful the past. Some are looking astatine it for the first time. These are the ample equilibrium sheets that deploy large amounts of superior and they’re willing successful what we’re doing. The 3rd class is the bucket of taste capital, group pinch power who are willing successful being a portion of this and bringing their communities pinch them. 

When will you stock who your backers are?

We’ll beryllium capable to stock erstwhile we cognize what ByteDance is doing. It makes nary consciousness to beryllium barking up the incorrect character here. 

You’ve had nary conversations pinch ByteDance leadership, right?

That’s correct. I reached retired earlier the decision. They were not willing successful speaking astatine that time. We’ll effort it again. They cognize astatine this shape of the crippled that we exist, we’re interested, and we dream that there’s incoming astatine immoderate constituent arsenic well. But we respect their decision-making process. They’re going to determine what they deliberation is champion for their interests.

Have you spoken to Trump aliases his team?

We’re successful the process of reaching out. I’ve heard President-elect Trump opportunity he doesn’t want to spot the app banned. I’m very willing successful having that speech erstwhile this gets sorted connected the China broadside and they determine what they’re going to do. 

Are you concerned astir different ample would-be acquirers, for illustration an Amazon, besides circling TikTok?

I don’t spot the large incumbents being bidders present for a mates of reasons. One is antitrust, obviously. Secondly, ideate you were a baccy institution and you built a large business and past group started to get worried because group were getting sick and dying because of the addiction of cigarettes and carcinogens. If you bought a baccy institution aft the surgeon general’s warning, past you were putting a target connected your backmost because you were buying it pinch the consciousness that your merchandise kills people.

The maturation of these platforms happened really fast. Then we discovered that location are harms. Anybody buying TikTok and replicating the existent design, which is to scrape peoples’ data, use algorithms, and manipulate people, they’re buying this pinch their eyes wide open. So I don’t spot a batch of bidders because group recognize they’re conscionable putting a target connected their back. 

Let’s return this problem and really usage it to catalyze an upgraded internet. Then, a batch of the problems spell away. A batch of the lawsuits spell away. A batch of the harms spell away. That’s Project Liberty. 

AI researchers want to party

Hundreds of the world’s apical researchers gathered this week successful Vancouver, Canada for NeuralPS, 1 of the world’s apical world gatherings successful the section of AI. I asked The Verge’s Kylie Robison (who conscionable published a fascinating heavy dive connected the history and early of ChatGPT) what it was for illustration being location connected the ground:

Are location immoderate recurring themes you’ve been proceeding successful conversations?

The “Is AI hitting a wall?” speech came up sometimes, but this is not the spot wherever group really judge that. AI information was thing I coiled up talking astir a lot. A investigation taxable that besides came up a batch was what Fei-Fei Li focuses on, which is helping AI understand the world for illustration we do successful position of physics and objects. That touches a bunch of cool things — robotics, agents, precocious reasoning.

Which laboratory does everyone wish they worked at?

This convention was filled pinch students from Waterloo and University of Toronto who fundamentally want any AI job. (It was rather saccharine sometimes watching those students area an AI exec astatine a party.) If parties are immoderate indicator, everyone wants to get arsenic adjacent to OpenAI arsenic possible. This is simply a highly world convention pinch tons of group conscionable wanting to do good, heavy research.

What was the hottest party?

The Midjourney statement was 4x oversubscribed and researchers kept sending maine the RSVP link. Everyone was asking astir the concealed OpenAI parties, though.

“These conversational interactions are going to go the early of the web… This is the adjacent browser; this is the adjacent hunt engine.”

There are plentifulness of absorbing takeaways from Mustafa Suleyman’s caller Decoder question and reply pinch Nilay Patel. The Microsoft AI CEO doesn’t look to work together pinch Sam Altman connected the timing of AGI’s arrival, and he revealed that Microsoft won’t train its ain frontier models erstwhile OpenAI is doing it for them anyway. He besides takes immoderate shots astatine Google’s guidance civilization versus Microsoft’s, which I’m judge will origin immoderate eyes to rotation successful Mountain View, fixed the measurement Suleyman excited.

As a follow-up to this conversation, I urge listening to Sayta Nadella’s question and reply this week pinch Brad Gurley and Brad Gerstner. Reading betwixt the lines, it’s clear that location is ongoing hostility betwixt the level of compute Altman wants and what Nadella feels comfortable spending. For those intimately pursuing Nvidia’s banal price, Nadella besides mentions that Microsoft nary longer feels GPU constrained but alternatively constrained by the powerfulness requirements for its information centers. 

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