I'm the CEO of Outside. I bring my bike on flights, drink ketones every day, and tell my staff to get off Zoom.

Aug 22, 2026 04:05 PM - 3 weeks ago 9

This is an as-told-to effort based connected a speech pinch Robin Thurston, the 54-year-old laminitis and CEO of Outside Interactive, based successful Boulder, Colorado. The pursuing has been edited for magnitude and clarity.

I grew up successful Colorado, and I've been successful the outdoor abstraction for a agelong time.

I was a cyclist erstwhile I was young, grew up done the nationalist squad system, and past raced successful Europe for 4 years. I still thrust my motorcycle 7,000 to 10,000 miles a year.

I show the communicative astir really my dad, successful 1979, threw an Outside Magazine astatine maine and said, "We're going here." The beforehand screen featured Arches National Park. I retrieve it arsenic a very excruciating 10 days arsenic a young child, but I was exposed to the outdoors a lot.

After cofounding MapMyFitness and later holding activity positions astatine Under Armour and Helix, I founded Outside Interactive, the outdoor media and tech level that now owns Outside Magazine, Velo, Gaia GPS, Inntopia, Outside Days, and more, in 2019.

Robin Thurston biking

Thurston has a agelong history of biking and prioritizing outdoor time.  Robin Thurston

Screen time is taking over. Never successful quality history person we spent arsenic overmuch clip indoors arsenic we do today. It's beautiful scary to deliberation that we astir apt walk astir 5-10% of our lives outdoors. That's not really what we're expected to do. Humans are nary different from immoderate different animals connected the planet.

I'm perpetually reasoning astir what the adjacent point I'm going to do outdoors is. I astir apt cheque the upwind six times a day.

Here's a time successful my life.

My woman and I typically aftermath up betwixt 5:45 a.m. and 6:30 a.m.

We'll return our 3 dogs retired and divided dog-walking duties. I ever show people, if you want to walk much clip outside, get a dog.

Next, coffee. I cannot past without coffee. I make it astatine location pinch my espresso instrumentality each day.

I usually walk a small clip pinch my kids, who are 10, 13, and 15, arsenic they get fresh for school. My oldest precocious sewage her driver's permit, which is some frightening and exciting.

If I scheme connected doing a higher strength workout, I'll eat a small spot of carbs — immoderate granola and yogurt, aliases caller consequence and granola. For my longer workouts connected weekdays, I'll effort to eat a high-protein repast specified arsenic steak and eggs.

I drink ketones, beverages containing ketone bodies arsenic an power source, each day, first point successful the morning. I've astir apt been taking them for astatine slightest 4 years, and I decidedly deliberation they thief pinch encephalon fog and endurance erstwhile I'm riding.

I cheque the upwind to pencil successful my motorcycle ride

Robin Thurston

Thurston bikes astir days of the week, pinch longer rides scheduled for weekends.  Robin Thurston

About 3 workdays a week, I'll either ride my bike for an hr and a half to 2 hours betwixt 8 a.m and noon, aliases do immoderate activity and schedule the motorcycle thrust for later, depending connected the weather.

It's a monolithic privilege for maine to effort to fig retired erstwhile I'll spell connected my ride, and I don't do good successful the precocious day aliases evening. When you're mentally fraught, it's harder to do it. On the weekends, I'll thrust 3- to 4- hours connected Saturday and 2- to 3- hours connected Sunday.

I alteration my activities depending connected the season. In the winter, I'll thrust indoors connected a Zwift bike, get retired for a short hike, aliases caput up to Eldora Mountain to skis for a fewer hours. From outpouring done fall, my regular workout is almost exclusively cycling.

I bring my motorcycle connected world flights

I'm astir apt successful a edifice for 75 days a year.

If I'm going connected a travel for 3 to 5+ days, I return diversion equipment. While taking moving shoes would beryllium ace easy, I don't personally emotion running. Instead, I return my bike, my skis, aliases my play clubs connected flights 60 to 70% of the time.

For bikes especially, renting tin beryllium a immense disaster connected the road; it's easier for maine to bring mine. All I person to do is return the wheels off. The lawsuit I person lets maine support the handlebars consecutive and the pedals on, truthful I tin get the motorcycle fresh to spell successful 10 minutes. I besides person multiple AirTags successful it, truthful I tin show wherever it is.

I activity from location and return section 'food meetings'

While we person offices successful the US, Canada, and Germany, we don't person 1 successful Boulder correct now.

If I'm gathering pinch someone, I mightiness beryllium doing it astatine their agency aliases astatine what I telephone 'food meetings' astir town. I astir apt spell to 15 of those a month. Otherwise, a emblematic luncheon looks for illustration tacos aliases a macromolecule shingle if I person little time.

Otherwise, I activity from home, mightiness do my workout, and past I'm backmost astatine it.

I promote my unit to return stepping calls and usage AI responsibly

Robin Thurston motorcycle helmet

When he can, Thurston takes clients connected biking aliases different outdoors meetings.  Robin Thurston

We person astir 400 employees. We promote everyone to clasp their meetings on walks alternatively than on Zoom. I deliberation video calls are awesome if you're gathering for the first time, but they tin get beautiful exhausting if you're doing them for 8 to 9 hours a day.

There's besides a batch of objective investigation showing that moreover 30 minutes of outdoor stepping tin little humor pressure.

I effort to schedule meetings wherever I thrust pinch personification aliases spell golfing, skiing, aliases hiking. In a fixed month, I'll effort to do 8 to 10 of those. Otherwise, I'll spell connected a canine locomotion during a call.

Our civilization astir video calls is akin to our attack regarding AI. I'm a instrumentality — it has massively sped up galore of the things I do each time and helped maine travel up connected a batch of things I possibly could not successful the past. I stress that you person to cheque everything; you cannot trust connected accuracy.

I typically decorativeness activity by 5:30 p.m aliases 6 p.m.

Working from location gets a small hectic astatine 4 p.m. because my kids get location from being astatine schoolhouse each day. We thrust astir the neighborhood, spell to the park, aliases beryllium down and play a committee game. My boy loves Battleship.

Then we'll person dinner. We grill a lot, truthful we person a batch of protein, immoderate carbs, and vegetables erstwhile we eat together. It's beautiful system — 80 to 90% of the time, we eat astatine home. It creates consistency.

I effort to beryllium distant from screens, email, aliases thing for illustration that until the kids spell to furniture aliases commencement getting fresh for furniture astir 8 p.m. aliases 8:30 p.m.

Then I'll activity for different hr aliases an hr and a half, conscionable getting fresh for the adjacent day.

I effort to move disconnected screens again an hr earlier I spell to sleep, astir 10 p.m.

Robin Thurston

Thurston tries to amended his slumber by search it pinch his Oura ringing and sleeping connected an Eight Sleep mattress.  Robin Thurston

We spell to furniture astir 11 p.m. I effort to maximize my slumber time. I deterioration an oculus mask, we person blackout shades, and I'll put connected immoderate meditation euphony aliases the "Nothing Much Happens" podcast, which puts maine to slumber almost instantly. My Eight Sleep mattress cover has besides genuinely changed my slumber quality. My only title is that I can't bring it connected the roadworthy pinch me.

I way everything done Oura and Garmin, and knowing those patterns has been really valuable. I'll still benignant of consistently get six and a half, possibly 7 hours of sleep, if I'm lucky.

Some group unrecorded long, but they don't needfully person the top value of life. I use the sauna and acold plunge, but the No. 1 point for maine is consistency successful activity. It's investing successful yourself, akin to dollar-cost averaging.

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